somebody is threatning me i need all the help i can get

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Permalink Reply by Andrea Nolin (Shadow) on September 19, 2009 at 3:29pm

I will keep you in my thoughts, but please, call the police if you haven't already.

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Permalink Reply by tineke been on September 19, 2009 at 4:08pm

i have andrea but all i could do is report the threat and wait.there were no whitnesses only the fact that he has done this before with others.but thanks for your support.btw the dutch police is not like the american police reacting right away.i regret this.blessed be and thank you andrea.

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Permalink Reply by Rev.Theresa Helton (Moonraven) on September 19, 2009 at 6:32pm

I will keep you in my prayers.
When my daughter was being stalked the police advised her to document everything. Keep a journal of every encounter, take pictures or a video of him when he is being agressive (if safely possible, a cell phone is good for this), record his voice threats (a little tape recorder works good), record any phone calls from him (the police told us this was legal), try not to go anywhere alone, especially where he may show up, Write down every incident and be sure to include date, time, place, witnesses. Above all, watch your back. If leaving a mall or store at night, ask management for a chaperone to walk you to your car. If you are alone and afraid, call the police. Every call is documented. Ask them for documentation any time they come to your house.
I hope this helps you. I feel for you. My daughter and grandchildren lived in hiding from this individual for over 3 years!
The police are limited as to what they can do until he actually harms someone. If you have the opportunity, press charges against him. Also, Keep in mind that if he approaches you at a store or bank and is aggressive, there will more than likely be a security camera on the premises. Notify the police if any thing happens in a place where there is a security camera.

Blessed Be.

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Permalink Reply by tineke been on September 19, 2009 at 11:19pm

thank you very much.yes i try to get people with me when i have to go somewhere,and the problem is that i got a job very near to his house.that bothers me the most.i told my new boss by the way.she understood and said she felt for me too and that if he showed up she would help.but thanks for your prayers i sure need them thanks.

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Permalink Reply by Jennifer Surdam on September 20, 2009 at 1:03am

I, too, will keep you in my thoughts and prayers/devotions/meditations, Cerridwen. Honestly, this, too, would be my advice. I would add that it is imperative that someone know exactly where you are, when you plan to leave [wherever]/be home, and that you check in with them on a regular basis at ALL times. That way, if you are late or haven't checked in in time, someone knows to be concerned!

I have been the subject of stalking and have had at least 2 friends that I know of with the same problem in the past. This is the advice I was given, and I was just lucky enough that it was my current husband at the time, who is now my ex, and he was military, and I was able to be moved out of state rapidly. I understand you don't have that luxury. Neither did my 2 friends, and they lived in terror. What I saw them go through, I don't wish on anyone. I wish you the best, and please, please, follow this advice. Someone needs to stop this man, and it may be up to you, armed with this kind of evidence, to do so... Having a job near his home means you must take extra precautions by having someone know where you are at all times, and you MUST get someone to escort you to and from work!

Sincere hugs and BB,
Jen

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Permalink Reply by tineke been on September 20, 2009 at 1:34am

im thinking of my boss escorting me from work to home.but thank you too and there is a notebook in the hall where i put every move in that i have to do from time to time.thank you for the advice.bless you.the fact that they invade your privacy is the worsed and the people on the office in the hall dont care really much even though he has threatend them as well.i dont understand these people.my hps said have your eyes in your back this man is really really dangerous.thanks for your prayers.bless you

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Permalink Reply by Jennifer Surdam on September 20, 2009 at 3:03am

If you feel comfortable enough to send me a message with your e-mail address, and I can totally understand why you wouldn't, so it's ok if you'd rather pass, I think I can help you with those "eyes in the back of your head." I have an exercise that I can send you that should open you up to other people's energy AND also protect you at the same time. Now, it's not gonna protect you physically, but on a mental/spiritual level, you'll have a pretty good idea of who and what is around you at all times. It takes a little while to get used to not only doing the exercise but understanding the energy AND your own instincts, but if you're interested, just send me a PM, and I'll send you the exercise. The only reason it's easier to send in an e-mail is I just sent it to someone here through the message system, and it literally takes 4 PM's to send this way...

Hugs and BB,
Jen :)

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Permalink Reply by tineke been on September 20, 2009 at 2:42am

thank you too.you bet i stay away from this man.i dont want anything to do with him.the problem is that he used to live where i live and that is what scares me he invaded my privacy and the privacy is supposed to be your place of safty.that bothers me.anyway thanks for all the help i sure need it.his name is harry groote by the way.blessed be

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Permalink Reply by Anavrin on September 20, 2009 at 3:52am

I am keeping you in my thoughts and prayers. This is an awful situation to go through!

A female police officer we know gave my employer and I some advice to help us stay safe when we're working in the evenings at our office. Thankfully we've never had to use the advice!

She recommended we get Pepper Spray. Not the little tiny bottle but the larger one that is sold in sporting goods stores for hikers and hunters to use on bears. Not only does the bigger bottle hold more but the area affected by the spray is larger and you don't have to be so precise in trying to spray it in the attackers eyes. Make sure you get a lesson on how to use the spray so you don't accidentally spray yourself. My employer was asked to sign a statement saying she was properly trained in using the spray but I don't know what the laws are where you live. Just remember, if there's a strong enough breeze the spray could blow back in your direction.

She also recommended getting a whistle and keeping it in your pocket at all times and to blow it if threatened. People will look to see what's going on if they hear a shrill whistle being blown. You could probably find some cute (or just functional) whistles you can wear on a chain around your neck or around your wrist as a bracelet. In fact, thinking about this, I could see making a little charm bracelet with charms and gemstones, empowering it to help keep you safe (for a magical touch), and putting a little whistle on it as well. This way you can wear the whistle everyday as a cute, magical, and functional bracelet.

She recommended taking a course on self defense. Some attackers expect (and want) a defenseless and scared victim, so if you react confidently and can fend off an attack, even if it's just for a few moments so that you can run to safety, you have a greater chance of being unharmed.

If he tries to trap you alone inside somewhere, try to get outside where your neighbors can help you. Don't try and reason with him alone and inside where no one can come to your aid. If he becomes aggressive, blow your whistle and yell "FIRE! Call the police!" rather than "HELP!" People respond to the word "FIRE" more often as a fire could spread to their property while yelling for "HELP" is vague. Sometimes people don't know if the person yelling for help is really in trouble or joking around so they don't get involved. If they hear the word fire, people will at least come out and look to see what's going on and maybe that's all it would take to make the attacker back down and leave.

I hope you never have to use this advice but, in case of a bad situation, I hope it helps!

~Ana

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Permalink Reply by tineke been on September 20, 2009 at 4:43am

thank you very much.i am making a charm at the moment and keep it with me.prayers to the godesses and gods help too.pepperspray is not available here only in criminal scenes.but hey if he attacks me what can i do? i also like the idea not going to the second plase.im sure he would like that to have me all allone.and every time i call the police at every single detail he does.it bothers me the most that the police always says first there has to happen something,but that something if it happens it might be too late they forget about that.well i am very moved by the way you guys all come with help and prayers it gives me such a warm feeling im so happy to have your prayers of all you guys arround me thanks and blessed be.

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Permalink Reply by Thodwen Alecto Owlblossom on March 15, 2010 at 12:36pm

May the eye of Horus watch over you! I have you in my prayers!

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Permalink Reply by tineke been on March 15, 2010 at 3:07pm

thank you very much christian.i appreciate it very much.blessed be

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