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the demons in us all

we have all heard the saying. The devil may me do it. But can the devil actually make us do anything? The answer to this question is no. The reason why the devil cannot make us do anything is because we have free will and we make our own decisions. If we take a look into the Christian Bible. You will find where Jesus was tempted by the devil on three different occasions. Luke 4:3-15.. the devil said to him, if you are the sons of God, tell this stone to become bread. Jesus answered it is written man does not live on bread alone.the devil led him up to a higher place in and showed him in instant all the kingdoms of the world. And he said to him, I will give you all their authority and splendor, for he has give to me, and I can give it to anyone I want to. So if you worship me, it will all be yours. Jesus answered, it is written worshiped the Lord your God and serve him only. The devil led him to true Islam in had him stand on the highest point of the temple. If you are the son of God, he said, throw yourself down from here. For it is written: he will command his angels concerning you to guide you carefully. They will lift you up in their hands, so that you will not strike your feet against the stone. Jesus answered, it says. Do not put the Lord your God to the test when the devil had finished all his tempting, he left him until an opportune time. So therefore after taking a look at the discussion between the devil and Jesus. you will see where the devil has no control over us. But it is not until we except the offerings that are hounds will not be clean because we do not have faith in our Lord and lady. So therefore once our house is unclean this allows demons to be able to move in because we do not have no light within us. Now we know that there are many demons that control the problems that are in our every day life. Let us take a look at the demons of addiction. And how this demon is able to move in to our house. When the spirit of a demon is released from the underworld it travels through the material world looking for a house that is not clean. Or a house that has no light. Once this demons finds a unclean house the addiction will start. Another Army things that we are addicted to. Drugs, alcohol, sexuality etc. once a person is addicted to a drug. The demon will cause this person to start craving this drug. Therefore this drug is like a food that feeds the demon. Therefore giving this demon more power over us. Now the demon gets stronger every time we use this drug or when someone else uses this same type of drug. This is how the demon gains more power in our lives and others. Now how do we get rid of these demons. As you know we can go to narcotic anonymous,AAA or other groups that will help us overcome our addictions. Or we can also turn towards family members and friends that are willing to help us. Or we can also turn towards our Lord and lady and give our faith to them. Therefore this allows our house to start being cleansed. Once our house is starting to be cleansed the demons starts losing its power and control over its. Once our house is fully cleansed and full of light the demon no longer has control over us.In therefore is cast out of us.now after the demon is cast out of us can this be many return to the house? After working with this type of demon myself for many years it is very possible for this demon to return. The reason why this happens is when the demon is released and travels through the material plane looking for another house to occupied. But when we are looking at the demon of addiction you must think about how many people in the material plane that are addicted to some kind of narcotic. So therefore you see how powerful this demon is and how many people in this world that are trying to clean their house of this demons. So therefore this demon is released back into the material plane and will remember the house that it lived in before. So therefore when you are having other troubles in your life it will come to you and deceive you by saying, you remember the good times we had when we work together. So therefore the temptation of the devil is back with us again. And you are left with the decision is your faith in the Lord and lady strong enough to overcome the demon?

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Permalink Reply by Drakill Tannan on March 22, 2011 at 1:35pm

I don-t really get if you are being literal or metaphorical with all this "demon"things.

I mean, i do know sometimes people get influienced and/or possesed by entities and this makes them more likely (in the less worrisome stages) or compels them (when influence is absolute) to act acording to the entitie's desires, but if there is influence there is usually a small amount and i think it is kinda rare.

Just to be sure, you are not blaming all our bad habits in entities influencing us, are you? that would be a mistake.

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Permalink Reply by oceanwitch on March 23, 2011 at 9:15am

no I am not influencing you. As some people believe in the devil, Lucifer or Satan. He is the only one that can influence you. By offering you what you know is bad for you. It is at that time you have the decision to take what he is offering you. All people are protected by the Lord and lady. But but that is if they are walking in the light or if they belong to any religion. For example you walk into a bar. The bartender ask you, what would you like to drink?it is at that time you have to make a decision. Now you can tell him you want a coke. But then you know the affects of any alcohol beverage and you know your state law on drinking and driving. And you know that this is wrong to drink and drive. But you decide to break the law and start drinking beer.now we all know that you have the freedom of choice. That was given to you why the Lord and lady. But did they give you the freedom of influence?

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Permalink Reply by Drakill Tannan on March 23, 2011 at 12:02pm

I'll rephrase. Does that bartender exist in thje physical "Objective" reality, or does he only exist in the subjective mind as a metaphor to illustrate temptation?

Because, if taken as if the bartender is real, not a metaphor, you sound like Jeova's witnesses, as if you were blaming satan and/or his demons for everything you do wrong. However it is people who make mistakes. You don't need a demon to make you desire a drink, sometimes you want to get drunk, there is no need of any influence but your own to make you persue the drink, sex, lazyness or whatever other "temptation" that there might be out there. Furthermore any human being can influence you to nearly anything if you are vulnerable enough. Desires, passions and temptatios don't come from a spiritual being, they come from oneself.

As i said before, you can be influenced by other entities, but that means every desire you have comes from an outer source, where do their desires come from? Or is it just bad desires? why can they naturally have bad desires but we can't?

If however you said it metaphorically and the abrtender doesn't really exist as a physical being but rather as a metaphorycal part of yourself, i agree 100% with you.

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Permalink Reply by Fantumofthewinds on March 23, 2011 at 7:46am

I wonder , what about Mansion ? when he said the spirit came to him and what of the many others that have lead others through the wrong path and their path killed them ? I believe we do have free will , but I also believe in demonic forces just as I believe in God. and I believe that their is also forces that can bend the ' will ' of man.

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Permalink Reply by oceanwitch on March 23, 2011 at 9:30am

I do believe that Charles Manson did not just have one demons but many. If you ever watched documentaries on Charles Manson you would come to realize that he was a very intelligent man. And that his teachings actually reached out to people. Some documentaries said that he had the power to brainwash people. But they also said that he was very kind and gentle to everyone and was a man who showed very much love for the people that he was around. But there was something that influenced him and was put in his mind to start killing these people. And we know the only one that has the power to influencing is the devil, Lucifer or Satan.and you're also correct on your believe about daemonic forces that can then the will of man. Even those that some people do walk into the light after banishing demons out of their life. These things that you have vanished out of your life before you started walking in the light can come back to. This is because the daemonic forces already know your weaknesses and when they are looking for a house to live in there will always remember the connection that they had to you. So therefore they will always come back to you and thought.

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Permalink Reply by Fantumofthewinds on March 23, 2011 at 10:01am

thank you many years of study MP

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Permalink Reply by Aja Moonstone on March 23, 2011 at 10:58am

I believe that about manson as well you can llok at him and see it, I watched an interview with him, and he put in just enough truth to catch your attention.

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Permalink Reply by Drakill Tannan on March 23, 2011 at 12:11pm

I had read something intresting regarding lucifer, satan and the demons.

While taken as an entity, "lucyfer" is actually a representation of an entire race. This were angels who couldn't keep up the pace with the rest of their "mankind" and got stuck on a lower state of concience. Because of how they are formed they are unable to learn the lessons needed to advance by themselves. This "Luciferians" gave man intelligence in order to be able to posses us and use us to learn the needed lessons in life. I belive this is supposed to continue to this day, and when they get the chance they posses a person and live through our eyes. For a small while, untill we regain control of ourselves. Usually people isn't supposed to notice.

Satan would be their highest initate and leader. Their version of "christ". This luciferians would be demons in the original sence of the word.

That could be what you're talking about, but honestly i don't buy that it happens on every single ocacion.

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Permalink Reply by Amberhawk on March 23, 2011 at 1:40pm

There are more things than just demons, other attachments that feed off what they stir up. Manson was and is mentally unbalanced, pure and simple. Demons tend to tempt those trying hard to be a good... whatever religion they belong to. They don't need to help anyone already doing their level best to be an amoral psycho.

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Permalink Reply by Drakill Tannan on March 23, 2011 at 1:43pm

But why? In catholic teology it makes sence: demons tempt you so you sin and don't go to heaven. IRL why would a demon tempt a human to do something bad? that is what i don't get. Luciferians merely experience the world through our eyes, as far as i knew, but why would they tempt us into doing "evil" stuff?

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Permalink Reply by Amberhawk on March 23, 2011 at 2:33pm

That's simple, to be fed. Evil feeds on evil regardless of religion. The more evil that is out there the bigger the food supply. Tempting someone who has it in them but fights giving it up is increasing the food supply.