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I'm watching this drama called "Secret Circle".
On the show the witch hunters have come to hunt the teen witches.

Have you ever been confronted by someone who wanted to hurt you because you are a Pagan?

I don't remember it because I have always been fairly muscled.
But my father did tell me that witchcraft was not of Christianity.
I did have a coworker scoff at me for saying I am Pagan.
But that is about the extent of it.
Not even at public gatherings have we been confronted.
Just lucky, I guess.
But I have friends, or supposed friends who probably feared that I might put a curse on them if they vexed me. I wanted to be more approachable and that was the reason for me concealing my pentagram.

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i in utah they can be the same here alot of time

People just assume i'm an intelectual materialistic Atheist. Somehow, and irnoically because it shouldn't, that triggers certian amount of respect.

I love to watch the Secret Circle on t.v.
Welcome aboard to Witchschool !

I have been following this thread - and another - watching with disbelief! What I put about the Secret Circle was not, in any way, an indication that I think the show is real. And yes I may have worded it in a slightly ambiguous way, but there is no reason that has to cause arguments and resort to threads getting so nasty they are deleted, or childish name calling, or the like is there!?

All I simply meant is that the fundamental ideas; things like a Book of Shadows, a family lineage, a coven, crystals, spells, etc. etc. are all there. I didn't, for the record, suggest that we can place piers on fire, or unbutton teenagers blouses, or any of that other stuff!

A lot of what we do though - you have to remember - if done with visualisation. This cannot be done on TV and would make for a pretty dull show, wouldn't it? "What are you doing Dave?" "Oh, just visualising blue light in the East. You can't see it, but I've got a really good mental image formed now and it looks beautiful". Not quite the same is it?? No - exactly. So the only way the directors can get this across, is to use visual aids. Over time, this has become distorted and "Hollywood-esque".

I only mentioned that as a throw-away comment anyway, and did not expect quite the negative feedback that came from it! I could NOT stay quiet any longer - even though I did when I got called names, and when I've sat here watching a display of everything that we are not meant to be. Yes, I too, enjoy a nice heated debate. A really REALLY heated debate is also good. But a debate is not a debate if it means that one of the parties just uses name calling and stomps their foot in the opposite corner!

And just to say, in closing; I am a trained - and only gave up due to my wife's health - secondary school teacher (high school if you aren't English) with a PhD in my subject. I also trained - as a fun sideline - as a Chef, and for 15 years have successfully run my own business, which has paid for 2 small children, a sick wife, and a money-grabbing ex-wife! I do not, therefore, need to read posts from others where they are suggesting that just because they read what I posted and misinterpreted it, that I am unintelligent. I apologise to others reading this and having to listen to a strange form of my curriculum vitae, but as you can see (and you know who you are) I am not stupid, nor have I ever been.

I'm sorry you all had to put up with this, and those who know me know that I am placid and leave things been usually, but this has to stop now. You have hounded me and those who have leapt to my defence on more than one thread, and caused a myriad of upset - all in the name of debate! But you cannot call immature insults as debate - that is just childish. Please moderators - you have seen what we have. . . do something about this member before you lose members that genuinely answer posts and questions WITHOUT the intent to incite arguments!

Blessed Be to one and all, and again sorry for the need to rant!

Rev. Andi

I also didn't think that you were saying that the show was real.
Rant away Rev. Andi.
Blessed be you and all that you are.

Ha Ha!

Why thank you, my friend!

I think I'm all "ranted" out now, but it's nice to know I can should I need to ;-)

Apologies that it had to be on your thread (a great topic in the first place might I add) and now guys and gals, let's get back on toopic and forget all the silliness, eh?

Blessed Be!

Rev. Andi

Hello Rev. Andi, You responded to pettiness you did not rant .
You responded with grace and Dignity and the truth.

I for one agree with you, Good luck in your endeavors and Blessed BE

Greetings one and all.
The Secret Circle is a nice TV series and nothing more. Its not WICCAN, its WITCHCRAFT, the good old fashioned spell casting, Sorcerer's Apprentice, Bewitched meets Charmed with some Harry Potter thrown in. But its definitely not a Wiccan show. I think it would be boring if it were religious with them going around saying Blessed Be. However they did mention a few real books on the show when Faye's mother was in that house and she said Crowley's 777 and some other book, they got the right stuff.

As to witch hunters, as long as their is superstition there will always be opposition. but to hunting witches, na.

LOLOL!! I HAVE to share this one! It's not persecution - it's just plain FUNNY! Our Handfasting was in Sept, and almost all of the 200 people there were NOT Wiccan or Pagan, my family included. My Mom told me later that my sister mentioned that she hoped the ceremony wasn't going to be in the nude, or have sex in it~~ I died laughing!! (I am 59.) My sister is much younger than I, and has never really understood me, but she's a wonderful person! She at least took the time to check out the Gardnerian version of Wicca -LOL!! We got positive comments from all sorts of unexpected people who saw that Wiccan and Native American Paths are NOT the evil, nasty, Satanic perversions they have been exposed to by the media through the years. Nor are they part of the 'Charmed' syndrome of irresponsible children manipulating others in a totally selfish manner. We were both rather surprised, on the whole, as well as pleased.

I remember you mentioning your upcoming Handfasting.  Glad to hear it went so well!  Blessed be

Here, here! & Congrats on your handfasting, dear sister!

Yes indeed! Congratulations!! :-)

Blessed Be!

Rev. Andi

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