I have never been much of a meat eater but recently read in the news that some stores are using a form of glue to make the scrap meat look like steak, that did it for me. They are also using it in animal food.
I am going on 34 years as a vegetarian. I do not eat or wear ANY animal products. Do you know if there is a link to the information you just gave? I would like to read it.
I don,t know how to do the link thing but I saved it in my emails. How can I send it to you or even the group.
Do they let you cut and past links here? I forget. My E-mail is firstname.lastname@example.org
Hello Rev Marie, excellent comments to which I heartily agree. I was vegan before discovering wicca personally. Wicca is a recent new experience in my life and i have much to learn. I think that "harm none' is similar to Gandhi's principle of "Ahimsa" or non-violence and that therefore it should include other sentient beings, not just humans. I feel wicca aligns with these principles but, like in many other religions, compassion is usually applied sadly to humans only.
Veganism or strict vegetarianism, as you correctly pointed out, is also a sound and intelligent solution to the environmental disaster and the rampant animal cruelty. It is also a plus on our health. In the end, it is a total win win situation for every living being on this Earth.
Merry we meet Nicole,
Although I am not Wiccan, I have been a practicing "Witch" for almost 40 years, my passion is animal welfare. It is a sad commentary when a human being will do everything in their power to defend their right to kill and be cruel. I believe mankind should Lay down their weapons and hatred and disarm their minds of hostility and cruel thoughts. Mankind needs to Seal up their mouths from the escape of unkind words and refrain their flesh from the evils of unkind actions. To make your body a grave yard of once living and now decomposing flesh is a violation against the mortal temple.
Once the human race makes acting and thinking with compassion their life’s mission, they will rise above their mortal flesh and only act with the pure spirit of their souls. The only meaning this mortal world holds is the meaning that human beings individually give it. What lives shall evolve. All things are random here. It is human minds that seek to make sense of it, not the spirit and not nature for both spirit and nature only seek to survive, while creator only seeks to create, randomly and prolifically. It is only mankind that seeks dominance and self importance.
It is mankind that has a need to dominate this Earth no matter the cost, Nature and the creator of life care not what mankind does. It is mankind that must care, it is up to mankind’s free will choice to show empathy, mercy and compassion towards the earth and her many life forms. This is called evolution. Mankind must use their free will choice to benefit this Earth and they also must use their free will choice NOT to cause suffering. Man's interference with nature is stopping the natural process of evolution. In other words, if we do not go back to natural living we are going to destroy the Earth.
The United Nations released a report stating that: A global shift towards a vegan diet is vital to save the world from hunger. Dr Rajendra Pachauri, adviser to the Labour government on the economics of climate change and chair of the UN's Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), has urged people to observe one meat-free day a week to curb carbon emissions because livestock agriculture produces more greenhouse gas emissions than every train, truck, car and airplane put together. In this report it also states that and it takes 260 million acres of U.S. cleared forest to produce a meat-centered diet: On an average, 20 vegetarians can live off the land required by one meat eater. As I told fgh-1038628, One of my congregation members put it this way. Think of the size of a cow or any large animal used for meat, now imagine how many vegetable crops you can plant in that one area where just one animal stood.
When considering the words: "harm none" Because plant life leaves us their seed, this allows human beings to replenish their species naturally, while allowing the natural progression of nature to evolve and thrive without the interference of population control, breeding, bloodshed and species extinction.
Some hunters will tell you that to preserve life you should never eat, including vegetables - because you are not preserving all life by killing plant life to eat. You should also stop breathing because your immune system is killing living bacterial life inside your body. And lastly, you should never move a muscle and walk upon the ground because every step you take kills microbial life forms by crushing them.
Preservation is not about being afraid of what life form you may kill if you live and breathe, preservation is about survival and keeping a species alive while also keeping them safe from harm or injury.
To preserve a life is to protect and spare it from suffering and extinction.
All life struggles for its own survival.
Even when picking fruits and vegetables you must never damage and destroy the leaves and vines thus stressing the plants that are working so hard to produce the food that will grace your table.
It is only logical to assume that all life suffers when harmed, including plant life, but animal life suffers the most. This does not mean plants do not suffer nor does it mean that plants do not have a conscious. The primary emotional center in the animal brain is believed to be the limbic system which is absent in plants. Vegetation does not have a central nervous system it reacts to the elements of nature. A plant feels discomfort and stress, but its pain level is far less than that of an animals. Plants also leave us their seed so their lives are easily replenished something animals are incapable of doing.
When speaking of emotions and plants one must realize that In humans emotions are felt and experienced through the brain in plants they are experienced through the senses. Plant perception is sometimes called biocommunication. Plants communicate their emotions through their response to surrounding stimuli. All though a plant has no way of feeling human emotions or intentions, through their own highly attuned senses they do indeed emote and feel in their own way. A plant knows when it is being touched and when it is being spoken to. Far too little is known about the Organic Biofield senses of a plant but because we are not plants ourselves we cannot readily dismiss the fact that plants do respond to our presence.
Always remember, Nature provides for all of our needs without the destruction of animal life. In fact, vitamins, minerals, proteins and nutrients can all be found in both plant and animal life. The key to knowing which one was put on Earth for human edibility lies in the dangers of consumption. Plant life is more healthy and digestible then flesh.
It is a commonly known fact that plants that are talked to and fussed over do better that plants that are let alone. When harvesting, from plants or fruit trees always treat the tree or plant gently, being careful how you harvest so that you don't damage them, damaged branches and vines open an avenue for disease. Always talk to the plant or tree and always thank them for the gift of the food that you are picking.