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I come to you with worry about one of the members (she is Wiccan) of our local circle (outside Witchschool). She has chosen a very rocky path causing a rift in the group and also in the larger fellowship we belong to. I am afraid this will cause the destruction of our circle, as others will not come because of her angry and threatening words against them. We do not wish her harm,and have felt she has a right to worship with us, as she is a full member of the circle, and have tried to reconcile the situation, but to no avail. Yet again today there has been communication from her in anger about a policy issue of the larger fellowship which if not contained, will cause further damage. It is tearing us apart. She is filled with negative energy, both outside and inside the circle, and has taken on some things in her personal life lately also that show poor judgement. I do not know how to help this person or the situation. I go forth to ask for hep from this group in perfect love and perfect peace. If this is an inappropriate topic for discussion for this group I understand.
Permalink Reply by Fantumofthewinds on Im sorry to hear ... but sometimes we must let go ... ask kindly .. perhaps the issues are not with the group, but with the self and the things she is dealing with [ personal ] and I have been told that when we as humans get hurt or fill displaced we always lash out at the ones we care about the most .. So I would ask that she step back .. take a breath and if her life works out and her personal problems get solved she will be welcomed back .. but the negative must stop .. if this continues .. band .. perhaps this is what is needed . Not inappropriate we all need advice from time to time .. good luck with this MP
Permalink Reply by Eirlys Lady Hawk )O( on I thank you for your wise council Fantum of the Winds. I had thought of her leaving the group, and have discussed this with my husband Walking Crow who is the leader of the circle. But he is unsure, and has written to her to ask her to stop her behavior. He is giving it another try. I do not think somehow that it will work. I will impress on him gently that perhaps after so much energy spent, there is the point to be reached as you say to ask her to step back. I think that will be fireworks, and we dread that.
Permalink Reply by Fantumofthewinds on I bet that you do , but in order to save others [ group ] then I fill this would be good for all , sometimes we all need a break from what we are doing to gain new perspective . better to let go one then to watch the whole fall , plus it makes the leaders
look weak, if they stand by and do nothing , even a parent correct their children . I would pray that this situation gos away and their is resolve for the sake of you as well as others . Blessing in what ever you choose to do .
Permalink Reply by Eirlys Lady Hawk )O( on Dear Sister Fantum of the Winds I thank you for your guidance and help in this difficult situation. I really appreciated it. I have sent her an e-mail following an e-mail she sent to us trying to get us to split from the larger Fellowship and follow her ways. She has not written back too me.. In that letter, i basically told her that her actions are contrary to those who follow Wicca, and that she and her views are not representative of our Circle. I said our group will go on in harmony with the Fellowship. I have spoken strongly to my husband who is the Circle leader, and have told him that she needs to be OUT. She has not responded to my letter, but to send an e-mail forwarding a news article supporting her views. She also sent this forward to another elderly member of the circle, who is an official Crone in her tradition, and whom she has publicly (on Facebook) insulted and harassed. I totally agree with you. This woman will be the demise of our Circle if we do not ask her to leave. I have to get my husband to tell her this. I have work to do..
BB
Eirlys Lady Hawk
Permalink Reply by Fantumofthewinds on as I said sister do as you should , for the sake of the group , if its not the same in perspective as to what you are trying to teach, many views out their and some are not the same as all , rather harmony then corrupt . I wish you the best now on with your work .. Forwards journey .... BB
Permalink Reply by Eirlys Lady Hawk )O( on MM My husband says that because this person has the right to participate with us if she pleases as we are open to all pagan faiths, she must choose to leave for herself. I am feeling very powerless right now, but we'll see what happens I guess, I am not giving up on this situation or our Circle. Thank you for helping me. I do know what needs to be done, but it appears my hands are tied for now.
BB
Eirlys Lady Hawk
Permalink Reply by Fantumofthewinds on God is powerful .. therefore ask ; in your name , and leave it at that ... the powers work in strange ways . MP
Permalink Reply by Eirlys Lady Hawk )O( on Thank you my Sister for your wisdom. That i will do and believe, as we follow our paths.
Eirlys
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Permalink Reply by JustbeMyself on i hope she isn't fully consumed with her own Darkness...if she not fully change her habit and realize that...it had been too late
Permalink Reply by Eirlys Lady Hawk )O( on An update. She is still with us. Not part of the larger Fellowship any more, but still an active member of our Pagan Circle, and still using FB to slam other religions and people. I have basically reduced my exposure to her posts there, and have tried to get my husband to sever ties with her, but he keeps merrily bantering with her on e-mail, thinking that if he is fair and non-judgemental things will balance out. I do not know where that will get him. Am I as bad in trying to get him to shut her out? Is his way the one of love and perfect trust for a person who constantly comes out with threatening and hateful things towards individuals and religious groups? I think she's whacked personally, and I just don't know what continuing to feed into her is doing. Time will tell I guess.
I am new here and prehaps out of line, but had a prroblem quite like this. Its so sad when someone bashes others beliefs. Its hard enough to get respect if we do not give same. It sounds as if you are very frustrated, and i think rightfully so. How does it look to someone who is a newcomer to the Pagan belief as well as this group. I wish you much luck. Love & lite
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